Know Your Rights: Reasonable suspicion and Probable cause

NYPDAfter reading an article about “Terry” stops by the NYPD, my inquisitive mind needed more answers.

“Police stop more than 1 million people on street” – http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091008/D9B75TA02.html

In the article above, they state that “The practice is perfectly legal” and then reference a Supreme Court ruling in regard to “reasonable suspicion”. This however, was not enough to ease my mind.

After digging around on wikipedia.org, I am still not so sure about the legality of what the NYPD is doing, and even more, I am concerned about further ramifications of continuing down this road.

Although it seems perfectly reasonable for a person to be required to state his name and purpose for being somewhere when that person is engaged in suspicious activities, where is the line between that situation, and a police officer being able to demand such information any time they want. Is there any line between such a law, and the presence of police checkpoints being commonplace on public streets? Florida’s “Stop and Identify” law is written in such a way that it’s vague language and subtle undertones leave the citizen with no power, and the “statue” (legislative power, judicial power, and police power) with the final word. Fl St 856.021 – (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0856/SEC021.HTM&Title=-%3E2006-%3ECh0856-%3ESection%20021#0856.021)

Now I’m not trying to get all “conspiracy theory” on you, and I am not about to scream “WE’RE LIVING IN A POLICE STATE!”, but any logical person must consider these topics at a time when we feel our rights are upheld. If we don’t question now, when the time comes and we need those rights, they may already have been pulled out from under us.

P.S. Always remember these five powerful words “Am I free to go?”

Further Reading

Reasonable Suspicion – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_suspicion

Probable Cause – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probable_cause

Stop and Identify statutes – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_Identify_statutes

Mutual Responsibility??? Pressident Obama Town Hall Meeting on Credit Card Reform Rio Rancho, New Mexico

Here are the parts I find interesting/unbelievable. You will see why soon.  Here is a link to the full transcript. http://www.koat.com/money/19463436/detail.html

“Millions are working jobs that don’t pay enough to cover the bills. Millions more see increasing portions of their income going towards paying down debt. They’re Americans struggling to cope with the rising cost of putting things like their mortgage, their tuition, their medical bills — even their food and gas bills — on their credit cards, because they feel like they’re going underwater. But they’re quickly finding out that they can’t dig their way out of debt because of unfair practices.”

“You should not have to worry that when you sign up for a credit card, you’re signing away all your rights. You shouldn’t need a magnifying glass or a law degree to read the fine print that sometimes don’t even appear to be written in English — or Spanish. (Applause.)”

“it’s time for reform that’s built on transparency and accountability and mutual responsibility — values fundamental to the new foundation we seek to build for our economy.”

Mutual Responsibility!?… New Foundation!?… doesn’t sound promising.

“Banks are a business, too, and so they have a right to insist that timely payments are made. But what we also expect is that our institutions act with the same sense of responsibility that the American people aspire to in their own lives. We expect that when we enter into an agreement, that agreement is reasonable and transparent. We expect to pay what’s fair, not just what fattens growing profits for some credit card company. This is America, and we don’t begrudge a company’s success when that success is based on honest dealings with consumers. But some of these dealings are not honest. (Applause.) That’s why we need reform.”

he expects to pay what’s fair………… I really do hate that word….  How does the government determine what is fair for a private company to charge a customer for a product or service?

“And we’ll require firms to offer at least one simple, straightforward card that offers the strongest protections along with the plainest terms and prices.”

What!?

“but we can’t tolerate profits that depend on misleading working families…We can’t prosper by putting off hard choices, or by protecting the profits of the few at the expense of the middle class. ”

Um, shouldn’t the focus be on the practices that are unethical “so called” not the PROFITS?  Oh wait,  but Obama’s not Marxist so we have to just let this slide.

“…we’ve got to control costs across the system, because if we simply insured everybody under the current system, we couldn’t afford it — we’d go broke….And the federal government — Medicare and Medicaid — is going broke… Listen, by far the biggest contributor to our national debt and our annual deficit is the costs of Medicare and Medicaid…And so we’ve got to drive down costs.”

Drive down costs, or limit and ration care?

“We have historically a tradition of employer-based health care.”

No we don’t… that system was forced on companies by the government…

“I’m confident that both the House and the Senate are going to produce a bill before the August recess. And it may not have everything I want in there or everything you want in there, but it will be a vast improvement over what we currently have.We’ll then have to reconcile the two bills, but I’m confident that we are going to get health care reform this year and start putting us on a path that’s sustainable over the long term.”

I may have missed this, but why the rush on such a major overhaul?

“Now, I’m a strong believer in the free market, but I think that when it comes to health care, the free market only takes you so far. If your child is sick and you don’t have health insurance, in a country this wealthy, we should be able to make sure that your child is cared for. (Applause.)”

“But the long-term deficit and debt that we have accumulated is unsustainable. We can’t keep on just borrowing from China, or borrowing from other countries — (applause) — because part of it is, we have to pay for — we have to pay interest on that debt. And that means that we’re mortgaging our children’s future with more and more debt, but what’s also true is that at some point they’re just going to get tired of buying our debt. And when that happens, we will really have to raise interest rates to be able to borrow, and that will raise interest rates for everybody — on your auto loan, on your mortgage, on — so it will have a dampening effect on the economy.”

When did Obama become a Ron Paul Fan?……
That’s all the Obama I can stand for one day.

sometimes doing the right thing hurts

To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it. -Thomas Jefferson